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War Glue - The Ultimate Glue?

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I was browsing around this morning seeing if one of the many wargaming websites I visit regularly had been updated yet (which it hadn't but thats beside the point) when I noticed the following words in the ad banner “Made Exclusively For Warhammer War Glue Wins The Battle Every Time” which caught my attention (not least because of the 'Exclusively for Warhammer' bit, I think GW may have something to say about that). So my interest aroused, all be it on an altogether cynical level, I followed the link.



I had a quick look round the site, read all the standard claims that glue manufacturers make ... bonds in under 3 fifths of a second ... only 1 eighth of a milliliter drop required ... there is no waste ... the nozzle never clogs ... it can be used to repair wood, plastic, metal, resin, porcelain, international border relations, rifts in the space time continuum ...
I also read  “Garry's Story” and several Testimonials along the lines of ...

Bill Trafficcone  - Vice-President of Preston Armature Wargames and Airfix Society (PAWAS)

“I have been wargaming for over 50 years and in all that time I have never been able to assemble a single miniature with normal glues. At first I was highly skeptical about War Glue but after I tried some I was thrown into catatonic shock by how well it bonded. It's the best glue ever, I would recommended War Glue to all 3 of my friends”

... there was also a Testimonial from a Mother and Housewife which even include the words “As a mum I haven’t got time to ...” as seen in most washing powder adverts.

Anyway sarcasm and satire aside I'm not slagging off War Glue, nor saying it doesn't do what they say it dose. My point is this: Do we really need an  Ultimate Glue to stick miniatures together?
In my opinion no we don't.
And why? Because of something these people seem to have never heard of .... PINNING! - I mean how fikkin hard is it to drill a couple of holes and put some stiff wire in them? Is there one large rock in north england all these people live under in ignorance of one of the basic techniques of miniature assembly? I kinda want to email a pinning tutorial to these people.

Any way to be fair I'll put a link to the website at the bottom of this post for those of you who might be interested. but I'm also going to put a link to the Heresy Miniatures pinning tutorial

http://www.warglue.co.uk/index.php

http://www.heresyminiatures.com/howtomake01.htm

for the record I use Loctite Super-Glue-Gel and 0.5mm iron wire and have never had any trouble getting my miniatures to hold together. For plastic miniatures I use Humbrol Liquid Poly

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BobbieTheDamned BobbieTheDamned
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Re: War Glue - The Ultimate Glue?

hmmm The lass who gave the last testimonial has the same name as my new landlady....wonder if its the same person, hmm that could be completely irrelivent!

I totally agree about pinning. A pinned miniature will stay together a lot longer than any glue will hold a flat-jointed figure.

Super glue works well for most things though I'd probably be tempted to use a 5min Epox glue on bit white metal monsters (I get it everywhere though!).

If it weren't really ridiculasly expensive I might even try it to say how bad it was.

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I have to confess that, even though I mostly use pins, I have had occasions when I've firmly wished I had some superglue accelerator.  There's a brand of superglue I keep forgetting which comes in three bottles: the glue, an accelerator and a release agent.  It's called something stupid like Zzap, but I've heard several first-person accounts of its effectiveness.

Haven't you ever had a joint that just refuses to bond?

R.
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only when I very young and I used to use glue I bought in the pound shop and never did any pinning
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I've used the Zzap stuff before and its pretty good, not significantly better than any regular superglue though. The excellerator also worked with the other brand of superglue I had at the time (I forget which one though).

The best use of the accelerator was to fill holes by filling it with bicarb then dropping some superglue on then spraying some accelerator onto it, instantly solid and sandable gap filling. Worked well on model railway stuff anyway hehe.

I tend to just breathe on setting glue to help it dry a bit as superglue drys with moisture and breath has a lot of water vapour in it compared to air, got to be careful not to breathe in the fumes too though.
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Ages ago a guy tried to sell me this stuff called 'microballoons' or somthing, which had pretty much the same effect as baking soda from what i could make out but was about 6 times the price
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Re: War Glue - The Ultimate Glue?

Loctite Ultra Gel.

It's got some vulcanised rubber in it. Or something.

It's handily workable for a good few seconds (even on porous surfaces), and is kinda shock absorbant too. Holds well even when spannered white metals fall to the floor.

No substitute for pinning of course, but for the sake of convenience it's pretty good really.
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I have some Fixsal trade super glue 20g which I keep in the fridge for 2 reasons:1/It thickens the solution & makes it easier to use,so that it does not run all over the place,2/I believe the glue last longer in a cool enviroment.I only ever use this as a last solution or because it is appropriate.As a rule I never use super glue in model making,as it easily 'breaks'.As other members have said-'Pinning' is the number one safest method.I would rather use a 2 part epoxy glue & hold a piece together by hand for 5 minutes,than chance a super glue.On the full size K9 the ears have 3 toothbrush rings stuck to a cocktail stick......each one was epoxy glued & held by hand to get them just right.Sometimes with 2 part epoxy glue,it may be possible to hold the item together in a vice or with a rubber band or by gravity.There is a risk on fiddly bits of sticking your fingers together,so wear gloves or make sure you have the de-bonder.
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